{"id":1056,"date":"2026-07-02T17:32:40","date_gmt":"2026-07-02T17:32:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/?page_id=1056"},"modified":"2026-07-03T15:18:59","modified_gmt":"2026-07-03T15:18:59","slug":"our-team","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/?page_id=1056","title":{"rendered":"Our Team"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"1056\" class=\"elementor elementor-1056\" data-elementor-post-type=\"page\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4dcf6bb e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4dcf6bb\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a123851 elementor-icon-list--layout-inline elementor-align-center elementor-list-item-link-full_width elementor-widget 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e-con-full e-grid e-con e-child\" data-id=\"a187ee3\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-edcd5f4 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"edcd5f4\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<a class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-717359f e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"717359f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/david-scott\/\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d56790c elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"d56790c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<div 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data-id=\"3cd91b4\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/wendy-erickson\/\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-07714fc elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"07714fc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-761e03a elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"761e03a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/wendy-erickson\/\">Wendy Erickson<\/a><\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-85437b0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"85437b0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><b>LCSW <\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3470f4f e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"3470f4f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<a class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b408a7f e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b408a7f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/tenesha-conley\/\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fc69232 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"fc69232\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4622026 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"4622026\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/tenesha-conley\/\">Tenesha Conley <\/a><\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-238c030 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"238c030\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><b>\u00a0CSW<\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e7c02e7 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e7c02e7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<a class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a87c8b4 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"a87c8b4\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/gaylene-rincon\/\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ff70d44 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"ff70d44\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b335dc6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"b335dc6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" 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href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/paula-anderson\/\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0707557 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"0707557\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-28e4040 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"28e4040\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/paula-anderson\/\">Paula Anderson<\/a><\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e3a6b9f elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e3a6b9f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><b>MFT<\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cf43e00 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"cf43e00\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<a class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b596d33 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"b596d33\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/archie-larsen\/\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e2d3328 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"e2d3328\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a991707 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"a991707\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/archie-larsen\/\">Archie Larsen<\/a><\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0eb78dd elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"0eb78dd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><b>CMHC Intern<\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-59da5f6 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"59da5f6\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<a class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d49c28d e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"d49c28d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/rebekah-harrison\/\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a08901e elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"a08901e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2565aab elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"2565aab\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/rebekah-harrison\/\">Rebekah Harrison<\/a><\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7bf6375 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7bf6375\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Administrative Service Director<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fc799e7 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"fc799e7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<a class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-08ab07f e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"08ab07f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/rubiconcounseling.com\/our-team\/desiree-thornton\/\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element 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Specialist<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ff65887 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"ff65887\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a281590 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"a281590\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e764ca6 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e764ca6\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-be0c982 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"be0c982\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b1677f0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"b1677f0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">BEGIN YOUR HEALING JOURNEY<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fff5962 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"fff5962\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Your Path to Healing Starts Here<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c917916 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c917916\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>No matter what challenges you&#8217;re facing, compassionate, evidence-based counseling can help you find clarity, resilience, and lasting emotional well-being.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9b7d3a5 elementor-align-left elementor-mobile-align-justify elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"9b7d3a5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"tel:+14358500034\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-icon\">\n\t\t\t\t<svg aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"e-font-icon-svg e-fas-phone-alt\" viewBox=\"0 0 512 512\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\"><path d=\"M497.39 361.8l-112-48a24 24 0 0 0-28 6.9l-49.6 60.6A370.66 370.66 0 0 1 130.6 204.11l60.6-49.6a23.94 23.94 0 0 0 6.9-28l-48-112A24.16 24.16 0 0 0 122.6.61l-104 24A24 24 0 0 0 0 48c0 256.5 207.9 464 464 464a24 24 0 0 0 23.4-18.6l24-104a24.29 24.29 0 0 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